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New opportunities and competitor insights
Sep 05, 2025 04:25 PM
The call was to talk about a custom Pento QC. We were able to open the conversation up to more opportunities and got feedback on competitors. BCD sells 1 liter of urine for $223 dollars. This urine has sodium azide added. They are having dificulty ordering Vitamin B QC from Chromsystems.
Meeting with UM System
Martin Shoge
September 05, 2025 • 24 mins • View Meeting or Ask Fathom
ACTION ITEMS ✨
Send quote for custom Pento QC (50 mL min, same as stock but diff lot)
Andrew Hartmann
Email pricing for 3 urine types (frozen 835 mL, liquid gallon w/ sodium azide, SMX synthetic)
Andrew Hartmann
Provide info on blank serum options (SMX and Human, no glycols/preservatives)
Andrew Hartmann
Send COAs for urine/serum products, offer trial samples if needed
Andrew Hartmann
MEETING SUMMARY ✨
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Meeting Purpose
Discuss custom Pentobarbitol control options and explore additional product offerings from UTAK Laboratories for University of Missouri Health's toxicology lab.
Key Takeaways
• UTAK to provide custom Pentobarbitol control with different lot number (50mL minimum, 10 vials)
• Exploring preservative-free serum and drug-free urine options (both synthetic and human-derived)
• Potential for vitamin B1 and B6 controls in blood, pending further discussion
• UTAK offers matrix sample program for testing specific requirements before full order
Topics
Custom Pentobarbitol Control
• Current lot: D6661, used for calibration
• Need different lot for QC due to regulatory requirements
• Custom manufacturing: 50mL minimum (10 vials of 5mL each)
• 30-month shelf life for Pentobarbitol controls
• Pricing based on volume; larger orders more cost-effective
• Options for separating QC and calibrator: different technicians, matrix lots, or formal documentation
Preservative-Free Serum
• Seeking serum without glycol preservatives for ethylene glycol testing
• UTAK offers both human-derived and synthetic (SMX) serum options
• Human serum likely preservative-free, but to be confirmed
• Synthetic SMX matrix guaranteed free of preservatives, vitamins, and hormones
Drug-Free Urine Options
• Current supplier: Biochemical Diagnostics ($232 for 500mL)
• UTAK options:
1. Frozen (835mL, no preservatives)
2. Liquid gallon (with 0.01% sodium azide, $5.94/gallon)
3. Synthetic SMX (guaranteed caffeine-free)
• Matrix sample program available for testing specific requirements
Vitamin Controls
• UTAK offers custom vitamin B1 and B6 controls
• Process involves collaborative testing of base matrix
• Options for third-party testing or using synthetic matrix
Additional Testing Needs
• Ethylene glycol QC and calibrators available from UTAK
• Potential for future vitamin B1 and B6 testing in blood
Next Steps
• UTAK to send quote for custom Pentobarbitol control (50mL, different lot number)
• Provide pricing for three urine options: frozen, liquid, and synthetic SMX
• Share information on preservative-free serum options (both human and synthetic)
• Send COAs and additional product details via email
• Discuss potential trial samples for urine and serum products
• Follow up on vitamin B1 and B6 control options in blood
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Hi Martin,
Thanks for your time connecting today. To recap our call below is the action items I took away. Let me know if I missed anything or if you have any questions. I attached CoA for the lab created matrices and the real human serum so you can see what is in them (or not in them).
1. Pento quote request has been submitted and our team will send this in the next 1-2 business days
2. Urine options
a. 88121-CDF(L) 1 gallon of liquid urine with Sodium Azide as preservative. Stored refrigerated.
b. 88121-CDF(F) 835mL bottle of frozen urine with no preservatives
c. 36000-SMX-U(F) 100mL bottle of lab created urine
3. Serum options
a. 44600-S(500) 500mL bottle of normal human serum, confirmed no preservatives.
b. 35700-SMX-S(F) 100mL bottle of lab created serum
Part Description Form Matrix mL per vial UOM Code Base Price
35700-SMX-S(F) SMX SERUM Frozen (-10C) SMx Serum 100 EA 870.6
36000-SMX-U(F) SMX URINE Frozen (-10C) SMx Urine 100 EA 114.4
44600-S(500) NORMAL HUMAN SERUM Frozen (-10C) Serum 500 EA 2,081
88121-CDF(F) CERTIFIED DRUG FREE URINE Frozen (-10C) Urine 835 EA 356.3
88121-CDF(L) CERTIFIED DRUG FREE URINE Liquid Urine 1 Gallon EA 594.4
Let me know what questions you have and how I can best support you.
Thank you,
Andrew Hartmann
Business Development Manager
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Outcome: Quote Requested