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CHris Hamilton - November 10 VIEW RECORDING - 8 mins (No highlights): https://fathom.video/share/Throt_Si-zVZL8xTu3QX3taXyZJUXb3E --- 0:00 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) I that. Appreciate it. prefer my Fri-Yays, but you know, I'll take what I can get. Yeah, me too. Good point. 0:08 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) Well, appreciate you making some time to hop on and go over these. 0:12 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) Sure. Let me go ahead and share screen. So the good news is I told you it was likely going to be a lot more expensive than what you were getting, but our team was able to come up with something pretty competitive. So we've got two quotes to go over. Sure. We'll start with this 5905. Are you able to see my screen? Yes, I am. Perfect. So this is going to be the option in real human serum. So if you wanted to order this option, these would be the part numbers that you would use, and you'll notice there's a line for the MTX baseline. That's because these are endogenous. So if we do it in the real human serum, once you place the order, our first step is to send you a sample of the matrix that we're going to use for manufacturing. We'll have you test that, let us know where it's at, and then our team does the math necessary. to either spike in or dilute down to reach your target values. Okay. We packaged it in a 17 by 3 ml. That's our minimum order size to get to that 50 ml vial. And your price per pack is going to be $14.41, some change. We've got all of the other charges, dry ice, handling, and shipping, so your grand total is here. The weight pricing on this one works out. So that Chrome Systems one, I did the math on it, you're paying about $78 per vial. With us, for the real human version, you're looking at about $85 a vial. So it's about a $7 increase per vial. Okay. Okay. That's reasonable. Yeah, this one will be made in real human serum. You're going to store it in the freezer. We're going to use a 4 ml vial, but it'll be a 3 ml fill size. And you're going to have an 18-month expiration date from the date of manufacture. So whenever you order this product, if we actually make it, you're going to get that full 18 months. That's as far as lead. Time goes. When you place the order, it's about 10 business days for us to get out that baseline sample to you. And once you get the results back to us, we're looking at about 15 business days to receive the order. And then thawed stability on these is going to be 25 days. 2:16 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) 25 days, right. Yeah, in thawed form. 2:20 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) So if you can't use the 3ML in 25 days, we can change that fill size too. Okay, yeah. 2:27 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) Yeah, I think, right, I'll have to revisit that. But I think when we were talking the first time, that seemed reasonable as minus fill size per vial, yeah. So. 2:45 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) Any questions on this specific quote before we move on to the next one? 2:53 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) No, you got our concentrations there. Yeah, that all looks good. 3:05 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) So yeah, no, I think that looks pretty straightforward. Next quote is going to be very similar. So this was the one in SMX. These will be the part numbers if you want to order this one. Same thing with pack size, order quantity, all of your totals. The way pricing works out for the SMX, the Matrix is more expensive. So you're looking at about $97 per vial, which is about $19 a vial more than what you were getting through Chrome Systems. You'll notice there is no baseline, though. Since the SMX starts as a negative, we don't need you to do any baseline testing. We don't have stability data for this one particular analyte in the SMX serum, so we have to list it as MA. It doesn't mean that it won't work. It just means that we don't have the data needed to make a guarantee for it. Okay. It's going to be made in SMX serum, same storage conditions, same 18-month expiration, and then since we're not doing the baseline lead time... ACTION ITEM: Email Chris 2 QC quotes (real human serum 5905; SMX) - WATCH: https://fathom.video/share/Throt_Si-zVZL8xTu3QX3taXyZJUXb3E?timestamp=235.9999 For this one is only 15 business days after you place the order. Right, right, right. Okay. 4:06 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) Yep. Pretty straightforward for that as well. Yeah, and I'll send these over to you, you know, after this call so you can kind of review them and go through them. 4:14 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) But just wanted to see, you know, initial thoughts. What are you thinking? Yeah. 4:21 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) My initial thoughts are that, you know, it seems like a viable possibility. for our needs. And, you know, I mean, honestly, I'm pretty far down this road with the, like, getting the Chrome system stuff imported. But, you know, I'd have to see where that, where that. Yeah. Thank It sits exactly right now and how we can do, I mean, the other, the other component of this is that we would need, we need calibrators for this, these assays as well. And so, but the calibrators are not our immediate concern. So that, that, that's why I just was focusing on the, on the QC. So. Well, do do calibrators as well. 5:32 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) So, you know, whenever the time is for that conversation, it would look very similar to this quote. As far as like the way it gets laid out, it's just whatever your concentrations are gets updated. Yeah. Pretty much same process, you know, same lead time, same general. Okay. Okay. 5:50 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) Same stability and all of that. Exactly. 5:52 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 5:55 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) No, that's, yeah, that sounds good, Andrew. I mean, I think, um, time. Yeah. This definitely gives me an option, something to weigh here for our needs, and I really appreciate you putting this together for me. Yeah, I love the opportunity, so. 6:15 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) Yeah, definitely. 6:16 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) You guys have been great partners before with our work, and as I said, I think looking forward here, we're even beyond these steroid, steroids, we're doing this toxicology panel, and there will be some needs for QC with that as well, so. ACTION ITEM: Review quotes; decide QC matrix; email Andrew decision - WATCH: https://fathom.video/share/Throt_Si-zVZL8xTu3QX3taXyZJUXb3E?timestamp=398.9999 Great. 6:44 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) Yeah, we look forward to, you know, quoting that and seeing if we could do that as well. Yeah, exactly. 6:49 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) So, we'll keep you posted about that, and otherwise, yeah, please just send those down to me, and let me take a look, a closer look, and. And I will get back to you, you know, in a few days or so to let you know, you know, what we're going to do moving forward here. ACTION ITEM: Follow up w/ Chris re: QC decision if no update - WATCH: https://fathom.video/share/Throt_Si-zVZL8xTu3QX3taXyZJUXb3E?timestamp=421.9999 Yeah, either way, you know, once you have an update, if you could just let me know. 7:12 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) You know, if it's a go, hey, that's great. If it's a no, hey, that's also great. You know, we appreciate the opportunity. But my bosses get on me to follow up on these pretty frequently. So I'll probably touch base with you in a week or so if I haven't heard from you just to kind of see where we're at. Okay. 7:26 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) Yeah, understood. That sounds good. Awesome. 7:29 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) Awesome. 7:29 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) So, yeah, thanks for your time and work on this. Great. We'll talk to you later, Chris. 7:35 - Andrew Hartmann (UTAK Laboratories) Okay. Talk to you later, Andrew. 7:36 - Hamilton, Christopher (pennstatehealth.psu.edu) Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.